Leadwork · Valleys & gutters

Lead valleys and lead gutters

Valleys, box gutters, parapet gutters and back gutters carry more water than any other part of a roof. We strip failed linings and renew them in coded lead, sized and stepped so they last.

Slate roof with a new lead lined valley

Quick answer

Why do lead valleys leak?

Lead valleys usually leak because the lining has split, often from pieces laid too long or because debris has built up and pushed water over the edge of the lead. Older valleys may also have been lined in lead too thin for the job. A failed valley needs its lining renewed, not a patch.

Usual valley code
Code 5
Valley piece length
Max 1.5 m
Gutter fall
1:80 minimum
Lifespan
80 to 100+ years

Signs of a failing valley or gutter

  • Staining or damp in a ceiling corner or along the line where two roofs meet.
  • Moss, leaves or silt sitting in the valley after rain.
  • Splits or holes in the lead, often at the joins between pieces.
  • Cut tiles or slates along the valley that have slipped or been mortared over.
  • Water overflowing a box or parapet gutter in heavy rain.

How we renew a lead valley

  1. Strip the cut tiles or slates each side of the valley and remove the old lining.
  2. Check and renew the valley boards and tilting fillets, so the lead has a sound, even bed.
  3. Lay an underlay and line the valley in new lead, normally Code 5, in lengths of no more than 1.5 metres with generous laps.
  4. Re-cut and refix the tiles or slates each side, keeping a clear, open channel so leaves wash through.
  5. Patinate, clean up and photograph the finished valley for you.

Box gutters, parapet gutters and back gutters

Gutters that sit within the roof, rather than on the eaves, need even more care. A box gutter between two roofs or a parapet gutter behind a wall holds standing water every time it rains. It needs a minimum fall of 1:80, drips (small steps) that break it into bays short enough to move without cracking and heavier lead, usually Code 6 or 7. Outlets and chutes must be big enough for the roof area draining into them.

A back gutter sits on the uphill side of a chimney, turning water around the stack; it's covered on our chimney leadwork page. Where a valley meets a wall, we tie it into the lead flashing so there's no gap between the two.

What affects the cost

Valley and gutter prices depend on the length and width of the lining, the lead code, whether boards or timbers underneath have rotted, the roof covering either side (slate and plain tile take longer to cut in than interlocking tiles) and access. We photograph the valley during a free inspection and quote in writing.

Where lazy leadwork shows first

Valleys are where poor leadwork shows first. We regularly find linings laid in one long piece, lead too thin for the water it carries and valleys mortared shut. We line valleys to Lead Sheet Training Academy guidance, with every piece cut to a length that suits how lead actually behaves on a hot roof.

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Straight answers

Lead valleys & gutters: common questions

Anything else, call Damien on 07803 473995 or send us a photo on WhatsApp.

What is the difference between a lead valley and a GRP or dry valley?

A lead valley is lined in sheet lead formed to the roof. GRP and plastic valley troughs are pre-formed alternatives used on many newer houses. Lead lasts longer and suits period and heritage roofs; troughs can be fine on modern interlocking tile roofs. We'll recommend what suits yours.

Can a leaking lead valley be patched?

A small hole in otherwise sound lead can sometimes be lead-welded. But most valley leaks come from splits caused by overlong pieces or thin lead and patching those just moves the leak. Renewing the lining properly is usually the lasting fix.

How often should valleys and gutters be cleared?

Once a year is sensible, more often under trees. Leaves and moss in a valley hold water against the lead and can push it over the edge of the lining. We clear and check valleys whenever we're on the roof for other work.

What code of lead should a valley be?

Code 5 (2.24 mm) is a sensible default for domestic valleys and back gutters. Box and parapet gutters that hold standing water usually need Code 6 or heavier.

Do you need scaffolding to replace a lead valley?

Usually, yes, for safe access and to work both sides of the valley. On some low roofs we can work from roof ladders and a tower. We'll confirm at the inspection and include access in the quote.

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